I’ve got 10 days until the Houston Marathon and I’m still dealing with an injury. Any injury is frustrating, but especially so when it happens so close to a race, whether a 5k, 10k, 1/2 marathon or marathon. I’ve been searching online the last months for tips and freaking out about how to deal with this because this is my first injury. About 4 weeks ago I decided that instead of stressing, I was going to put together a plan of action so that I could run my best (or at least my knee’s best) on January 30th!
I injured my knee about 6-8 weeks ago, right after I placed 3rd in the 5k Turkey Trot. I was fine after the race, but my quads were a little sore, which made me realize they were weak. Then, during my 16mile long run a week later, I landed on my leg a little weird and felt a pain in the outside part of my right knee. That was at about mile 12, so I decided it wasn’t bad enough to stop and I finished at 16. The next few days were excruciatingly painful, especially going down stairs and after periods of sitting. So, although it was killing me to rest..I took off one week and then tried to ease back with a 6 mile “long run”. I could barely make it. After that weekend, only ran a 1-2 miles during the week and basically missed my long run for 3 weeks, which is really not good when your marathon is less than 2 months away.
After weeks of trying to figure out what was wrong, I thought that I may have torn my meniscus, so I better get it checked out. I saw a physical therapist (PT) and then also a knee doc who did x-rays. Neither acted like anything was wrong and said I probably just sprained it. That was no help at all and I still continued to have the pain whenever I bent my knee or tried to run. After another week or so of staying off of it…I decided to try some cross training. Spinning bothered it and so did the elliptical, but jumping rope didn’t. Also, I was finding that after sitting for a period (like during my 1-hr flight) and then standing…my knee would get painful and stiff and I could barely walk. But, then after I stopped or moved it around a little the pain was almost gone. After more research, I read that people with Runners Knee sometimes have this happen and they call it “movie theater leg syndrome”. I never considered Runners Knee because my knee pain was lateral (to the outside) and not really close to the patella. But, come to find out…runners knee can affect you anywhere around the patella tendon, even on the sides. This makes sense because I haven’t been strengthening my quads very much over the last 6 months and that combined with a little overuse were causing my tendons to get out of whack.
So, now that I’ve figured out what is wrong, this is what I’m doing to treat my Runner’s Knee:
I did fine during my 18mile run last week (I had to stop and stretch quads some), but I’m now confident I’ll be ok for the marathon. I doubt I’m going to hit my goal of under 3:45 but I’m just going to try to do my best. I’m going to do what I always do on marathons…treat the first 20miles as a training run and the last 6 as a race. So, if my knee will hold up…I’m going to kick it in gear the last 6! Stay tuned…
Amateras
January 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Cari -
I find you to be so inspiring
My son has been logging in his miles for the Miracle Match Marathon !
Ilia
February 19th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Hi, my name is Ilia and I’m running the LA Marathon. I injured my knee during a 15 mile run and the day after, the side of knee was in excruciating pain. I couldn’t go up or down stairs and it was difficult for me to even walk. I did no running for 2 weeks. Right now I have been running around 2 miles and ab workouts. I still feel a tiny pain in my knee and I’m not sure if I should ignore this or just skip the marathon. The most I have ran was the 15 mile run and keep in mind that the actual marathon is three weeks ahead. If you have any advice for me, please share. It would mean alot to me to hear something from a person who is experienced the same injury as me.
cari
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:18 am
Hi Ilia! Well, it sounds like this might be your first marathon? So, because of that and the fact that you are only up to 15 miles for your long run…you may want to think of some other options. Normally, you want to try to get up to about 22 miles before a marathon at least once and then the few weeks before, do shorter “long” runs and taper. I think if I was you…I would do the marathon but treat it as an easy training run. If it’s been 2 weeks since your last long run, try to do 16-17 miles either this weekend or next (not the weekend right before the marathon). Then, the weekend of the marathon, aim to run 18-20 miles of it very easy. I would mix in some walking and stretching and just walk the other miles. Then, take a week off and start back with an easy 15 miles. Then, I would continue to train and signup for another one this spring that you can run really good. Running 26.2 is way different than 15. If they had a half marathon option, that would be perfect but I don’t think they do. If you find it too hard to run 16-17 miles before the marathon or your knee is really hurting…don’t push it. I would just take time to heal and run a different race this spring. It’s not worth injuring your knee more. Also, it does sound like you have the same problem as me…but you may want to go see a Dr. to make sure you don’t have an ACL issue or stress fracture.
Keep me posted!
Rob_K
August 25th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
I would love to hear how you made out. I have 6 weeks to go before my first marathon and also am having a bout with Runner’s Knee following a 19 & 20 mile run weekends.
I am going to try and take a few days off from running until I am pain & swelling free and then try to finish out my last week or two of hard training before the taper.
cari
August 29th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Hi Rob. Thanks for your comment! Actually…my knee held up. It started feeling a little weird the last 4 miles, so I slowed down quite a bit so that I could finish strong. Yeah, I wouldn’t push it. Take off a week or 2 if you have to and do some cross training. Don’t forget to strengthen and also stretch your quads. That helped me a lot. Even stopping to stretch my quads (helps get the patella and tendons re-aligned) during my training runs made a huge difference. During your last 2-3 weeks just do easy runs and be sure to ice your knee after and wear a compression wrap. Good luck and let me know how it goes!
Shawn
October 6th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I have been scouring the internet for the past 2 weeks wondering if I had runners knee and what I should do (1 month out from NYC Marathon… my first). This is the first post that confirmed it for me. I also feel it on the outside (and I know it isnt far enough outside to be ITBS). I think i have been ignoring my quad strengthening also. Thanks to you i know what to do now! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
cari
October 7th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Hi Shawn. Thanks for your comment! I’m so glad I was able to help : ) I was so frustrated for months, so I know how you feel. Just take some time over the next few weeks to strengthen quads a little (don’t overdo it though) and try the other things I mentioned like stretching during runs and using ice a lot. I ran NYC last year and it was so much fun! Good luck and let me know how the knee holds up. Remember, no race is worth hurting your body – so if you have to…just go slow and enjoy the scenery.
David
October 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Hi Cari,
Thanks for the info. Im running my first marathon in a week and have been getting the same knee pain as you described, it has been manageble up to now, Ive just ignored it and it usually goes away. Ive built up my long runs to 20 miles 2 weeks ago and have been pretty good at keeping to a training plan over the last 3 months. Now its seems to be all going to hell. I tried a 12 mile run yesterday and couldnt complete it, the pain was intense, especially when I stopped at lights and tried to go again. I have put alot into trainning for this and to not run it is not an option. Have you any advice for the next week, or even the race just to get me over the line. I was aiming for 3.30 but if I can crack 4 hours on a dodgy knee then I will be happy.
Cheers
David
cari
November 26th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Hi David! Sorry for the late reply..I was having a problem with spammers making comments, so I just saw this! How did it go??
Jocelyn
December 17th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Hey Cari!
I am training for my first marathon which is January 8th. The same exact thing happened to me. About a month ago, I was on my long run which was 17 miles and at mile 12 my knee seemed to just stop working. It hurt SO bad but I ran till 16. I am in college and I was taking a running class, so I was forced to run only days after. At that point I couldn’t even raise my leg. So I took 2 long runs off, did some physical therapy and went back to do 20 miles (big mistake). That set me back even longer. Just today I attempted 15 miles and was experiencing horrrrible sharp knee pains in the bottom right of my knee. With the marathon just 3 weekends away what do I do? It is just too painful to push through at this point, but I have come too far to not keep going.
Your advice would be SO appreciated!
Jocelyn
cari
December 27th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Hi Jocelyn! Sorry for the late reply…I’ve been having issues with my comments going through. It sounds like you have “runners knee” just like I did last year. Since you’ve already done a 20 miler, I wouldn’t worry so much about getting in any additional long runs at this point and just start tapering. I would probably just run easy during the week with 2-3milers every other day or so – if your knee can handle it and possibly a 7-10 miler this weekend if you don’t have the pain. But, if it’s hurting you after 2-3 then just stop. Take a couple days off this week and ice it every few hours. Since it’s less than 2 weeks away – you probably won’t be able to strengthen your quads too much, but it can’t hurt to try. Strong quads help your knee and tendons stay in place. So, you may want to still hit the gym and do the leg extension machine (or do lying leg raises with an ankle weight). Stay way from squats and lunges or anything that would put pressure on your knee. Also, KT tape really helped me – so try that and/or a knee brace. Also, during your next few runs – make sure to go slow and really warm up for about a mile and then stop and do quad stretches. Whenever I felt the pain – I would just stop and do a basic quad stretch (keep knees together) and I could almost feel my knee and tendons realigning in the right place and then the pain usually disappeared for awhile or was way less. On race day – I would just adjust your goal pace and see how your knee handles the first 20 miles. If it’s ok- then treat the last 6 as the race. If not, keep it slow. It doesn’t mean your doomed – so far this year I haven’t had the issue again and I have mine on Jan 15th. Good luck and keep me posted!
Jason
January 1st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Cari, thanks for this great post. It sounds just like what I am going through now. Hoping to make it through my first marathon 1/8/12 at Disney World…
cari
January 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 am
Thanks, Jason! Good luck with your marathon! If your knee doesn’t hold up – don’t push it. You can always get your let stronger and do another one this spring! Let me know how it goes!
Annie
February 21st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Hello Cari – Thank you for posting this, it is reassuring to me that just maybe I can finish. I’m a newbie runner/jogger and I’m just doing a 1/2 but I’ve been having similar knee pain even after laying off of it for 2 weeks. Do you think it would be alright to use KT Tape and a knee brace together or is that overkill? I just want to finish at this point without injuring myself further. I don’t want to skip the race as I’ve already paid for the registration and travel expenses.
cari
February 21st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hey Annie! Thanks for your comment. I don’t think it would be overkill. Sometimes the KT tape doesn’t stick too well (depending on how much you sweat) – so it might be good for you to have the brace as a backup. Just make sure it’s not too tight because you don’t want to affect your circulation. I would go pretty easy the first 5 miles and gradually increase your speed with the last 1-2 miles the fastest. You want to be able to finish strong so save any speed for the end. Also – you may want to stop every few miles and stretch it out. I do some standing kicks (leg extensions) to get my alignment back in place and it seems to work! Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
Elaine
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hi! So glad I found this. I’m VERY new to running. I signed up for my first 5K in April and have been training for it using the Couch to 5K regimen. Went longer than normal the other day, and by the end of the day my knee was hurting. Not too bad, only hurt the most walking down the stairs. Went for a short run this morning and I could run on it except it’s just this nagging pain. Felt better after my husband help me stretch out my leg. Any suggestions? Kinda worried about this interfering with me being able to do this 5K. Thanks!
cari
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
Hi Elaine! Thanks for your comment! It sounds like you may have runners knee like I have, but usually that starts to happen after you run a lot of miles or are training for a half marathon or longer. However, it’s still possible if you’ve increased your distance too soon. If it is runner’s knee…do what I did and focus on making your quads and other leg muscles stronger (work all of them so you are balanced). Stretching definitely helps too, especially with the quads and IT band (look for stretching videos on line or foam roller info). I would also make sure you are wearing the right shoes for your arch. Most of the time when you have a knee or leg problem when training for 5k’s – it’s related to your shoes. You should go to a running specialty store and they can tell you if you under or over “pronate” (roll the foot in our out) when you run. In my experience, finding the right shoes for your feet (vs. based on style!) can fix most leg problems! Good luck on your race and keep me posted!
Elaine
February 22nd, 2012 at 11:32 am
Thanks soooo much! I did go to a running store and got fitted for the right shoes. In fact, they’re the best shoes I’ve ever ran in. The first few times I’ve ran I had no problems. I agree, I think I just went a little too far than I should’ve. How long should I not run for? I’m actually really bummed that I’ll have to take a break from running. Something I never thought I’d ever say.